The Vinton County 16: Hidden in Plain Sight

In the smallest county in Ohio—just one traffic light, one grocery store, and miles of Appalachian isolation—authorities uncovered one of the most shocking child endangerment cases in state history. On June 30, 2026, a search warrant in the quiet village of Hamden led investigators to a cramped room where 16 children, ages 18 months to 18 years, were found living in deplorable, dangerous, and heartbreaking conditions.

In this episode, Tiffany Kline breaks down the full timeline, the family at the center of the investigation, and the systemic failures that allowed the Siders family to remain hidden for nearly two decades. You’ll hear the verified details behind the arrests of Gary Siders Sr. (73), Christina Siders (67), Gary Siders Jr. (36), and Elizabeth Siders (33)—all charged with 16 counts of felony child endangerment.

Tiffany guides listeners through the medical emergencies, the sealed court records, the bond modifications, and the statewide political fallout, including renewed debates over child marriage laws and homeschooling oversight. With updates as of July 11, 2026, this episode reveals what’s happening now: the children’s ongoing medical care, the legal battles ahead, and the growing pressure on Vinton County’s justice system.

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Welcome back to another episode of True Crime with Tiff Klein, giving criminals the disrespect they deserve. I've been giving a lot of disrespect to others on my other podcasts. My newest podcast, Turning the Corner. It is my newest podcast about cheating, deceit, abuse, domestic violence, not-for-profits, nonprofits, missing persons, narcissism, and more. If you'd like to follow it, it is available on all your favorite streaming platforms. Again, that's Turing the Corner with a K. Now, tonight we are back with season three, episode seven. And this is a case that has taken the reins. A case that's very close to home, no pun intended, in an area where I grew up in southern Ohio. The Vinton County 16, hidden at plain sight. That is tonight's episode. Again, this is true crime with Tiv Klein giving criminals the disrespect they deserve. It's night, but we're going to be giving the Viton County family much disrespect. Picture it. Viton County, Ohio, the smallest and one of the poorest counties in the state. Much like a little town I grew up in in Manchester, Ohio, just one traffic light, one grocery store, and miles of isolated Appalachian terrain. Now I grew up in a very rural area in southern Ohio, in the poorest county in the state of Ohio. I could see Kentucky from my front porch. I grew up on a beautiful farm, beautiful home. And when I say miles of isolated Appalachian terrain, we lived on 1,100 acres. The school, the nearest Walmart was 20 minutes away. We had one McDonald's in the county at one point, one liquor store, one Walmart in one county. Okay. So I'm trying to paint you a picture here. On June 30th, 2026, this quiet rural community of Vinton County, Ohio, became the center of a national nightmare. Sixteen children ages one and a half to 18 discovered living in deplorable, squalid conditions, hidden away inside a small room in a home in the village of Handon, Ohio. Four adults, Gary Siders Sr., who is 73, Christina Siders, 67, Gary Siders Jr., 36, and his wife, Elizabeth Siders, 33, were arrested and charged with 16 counts of felony child endangerment. Ohio's Attorney General Andy Wilson called the case pure evil. Now, again, I grew up about an hour and a half from Handon, Ohio. I know where this is. I drove around it or through it many times to get to Columbus or to Pennsylvania on my travels. If you lived in Southern Ohio, you know how isolated this is. So people can say all they want that how did nobody ever see this happen? When you live in the middle of nowhere and people, your neighbors don't really bother you, it's it's it's pretty simple. So today we're breaking down every timeline, every update, every name in the broader systematic failures that allowed this to happen. June 30th, 2026, deputies with the Vitten County Sheriff Office executed a search warrant on the Cider's home in Hamden. The warrant was for an unrelated case, but what they found changed everything. Inside a small room, 16 children were discovered, hidden, malnourished, and living in conditions. Ohio's attorney general described this as deplorable. Some children were unable to speak, and others required immediate hospitalization due to the severity of the living conditions. Authorities confirmed that these children ranged from one and a half to 18. Now, I have a degree in child and family services. There is a reason I do not work in the field of child and family services. As I took classes, I quickly realized that a social worker can only do so much until there's red tape and then the state has to step in. I couldn't go to these houses, seeing these conditions that these families live in, and leave kids there with neglect, abuse, bugs, feces, deplorable, hideous conditions, and sleep at night. There's no way. I'd have been in jail for removing them myself from those homes. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night in peace knowing that I left kids in homes like this. Now there are good social workers out there, but the majority of them look the other way because they have no other choice. They can only do so much. And for them, it's just a job. They get to a point where they're defeated as well. They go in, they do what they gotta do, they fill out the paperwork, they check the boxes and on to the next. And so many kids have been failed from the system. So many, so many kill kids have been murdered because of the system. So many kids have been through neglect and horrible, horrible abuse because of the system, overlooking, not catching everything, not being thorough enough, not repeating appearances enough, getting these cases get pushed aside, forgotten about. I did my internship at an Aquine-assisted psychotherapy program. And I watched these kids come in from loss and trauma. And the behavioral specialist would throw me boxes and files, and I would have to read these cases that these kids went through. The trauma, the torment, the neglect, the abuse from their own parents. And when you thought one was just, you know, you you read it all and it was the worst, then you read another file that's 10 times as worse. And it it got to a point where it really affected me. And I said, I can't do this forever. I can't go into these homes. As much as I want to be an advocate for kids, I couldn't, I'm strong, but I'm not that strong to be able to walk away checking the box and saying that's my job. I did what I could. Like there, I just can't. So I knew that I couldn't and I couldn't end up working in that field because I wasn't programmed and robotic enough to just turn it off. I'm an empath. So every case I would I would have taken personal, I would have removed those kids myself from those homes and I probably would have been in jail. So this case really got to me because I was picturing myself dealing with this, having to be a social worker or somebody on a team to have to help these kids, seeing the conditions they lived in, the aftermath, and it it broke my heart because there was no excuse for this. There was no reason. And these kids were dragged across four counties and not one adult helped, not one adult. They were filmed by every single person. Now, a lot of them were hidden and never known about. But why weren't there doctor appointment follow-ups and check-ins? How come nobody asks questions? On June 30th, all four adults in the home were arrested and charged with 16 counts of felony child endangerment. So again, we have the parents, Gary Siders Jr., who's 36. We have Elizabeth Syders, age 33. We have Gary Siders, age 73, and Christina Syders, age 67. Now I saw on a YouTube report the other day that there were some family members of these people who were on the news saying, just because they're related to us doesn't mean we're like them. They weren't always like this. They have other daughters who are upstanding citizens in society and they're actually successful. This, they weren't always like this, but it happens at some point. Something happened somewhere. There was some kind of mental illness and abuse and coercive control and issues in this home. It didn't just arise out of nowhere. So there was a marriage history of Gary Jr. and Elizabeth. They were married in 2008 in Mason County, West Virginia, when Gary Jr. was 18, but Elizabeth was 15. Now, everybody online's losing their shit. They're like, how did their, you know, this is their parents' fault. They should be accused too. Guys, in those southern states, they don't look at the law like most states do. They get it, they're more lenient on things, especially when it comes to marriage like this. If her parents signed the papers and approved it, there's nothing they can do. The judge honored it in the eye of the law, right? So they followed the law. They had a parent's approval. Now, should have they done it? No, but by law, they were allowed to sign their daughter over to an 18-year-old man. They were living in Galileo County, Ohio at the time. The detail that this resonated reignited statewide debate about Ohio's child marriage laws, which until 2019 allowed marriage at any age with parental consent. I'm gonna say that one more time. This detail has reignited statewide debate about Ohio's child marriage laws, which until 2019 allowed marriage at any age with parental consent. I lived in Ohio and I didn't know this. The Columbus Dispatch located birth records showing many of the 16 children were born in medical centers, though one record could not be obtained. Authorities described the home as squalid, deplorable, and unfit for human habitation. The children were allegedly kept hidden from the public, confined to a small room, living without proper sanitation, suffering from medical issues, and some, if not all, I believe are unable to speak. All four adults were faced 16 counts of felony, child endangerment. Some defense attorneys have cautioned the public against drawing conclusions before more evidence has been released. Now, they did confirm that Elizabeth is pregnant as we speak in jail. Yes, she is pregnant again. This case is being overseen by Vitten County Common Plea Judge Lena Fetheroff Rogers. The lead prosecutor is Vitten County prosecutor William Archer Jr. Since the arrests, he has debunked social media rumors. There were these rumors going around that the minors in the home made TikTok showing them living there, that he debunked those. He has requested additional prosecutors and warned off the financial strain on the county. On July 2nd and 3rd, Gary Syter Sr. suffered a fall in jail and was hospitalized. Doctors discovered a serious medical condition requiring specialized care. His bond was modified to allow release on his own recognition so the county would not be bankrupt by his medical costs. What is wrong with him that would bankrupt the county? Like what are his health conditions? If released from the hospital, he will be fitted with a GPS monitor. On July 7th, 2026, all four defendants waived their preliminary hearing. The Columbus Ditch Dispatch has filed a complaint with the Ohio Supreme Court, arguing that Vitten County improperly sealed search warrants. Several children required hospitalization due to the conditions inside the home. The county is relying on South Central Ohio job and family services, state funding. Ohio is preparing to send $1 million to support the children's care. Some children have medical needs, developmental delays, and inability to speak. Ohio lawmakers, including Senate minority leader Mickey Antonio D. Lakewood, are calling for raising the marriage age to 18 with no exceptions. Advocates like Frady Reese, founder of the Unchained At Last, say this case highlights the dangers of child marriage. The case has also sparked debate about Ohio's homeschooling regulations, which some say allowed the children to remain hidden. Latest updates as of July 10th and 11th, media outlets continue releasing new details, and NBC four updated coverage at 8:54 a.m. this morning, and the children remain in state care. Gary Snyder Sr. remains hospitalized, and the other three defendants remain in custody at the regional jail in Nelsonville, Ohio. The county is awaiting that $1 million of state aid to help these children. Additional prosecutors are being brought in due to the scale and the size of this case. Now, 16 children found living in deplorable conditions. And we have defendants Gary Syders Sr., Christina Siders, Gary Siders Jr., and Elizabeth Siders. There is a lot going on here. I have a lot of questions. I want to know someone managed to be pregnant 21 times in 21 years, always seen pregnant, but not one person ever questioned where their kids were or never saw kids with them. And then I think I read that one or two of the kids have been seen out in public with them when they go into the grocery stores at night. What the hell? And this is a question that most people would ask me, what the hell with her parents thinking allowing her to get married into this family? Well, again, in in southern states like Ohio, Virginia, Kentucky, etc., these things are a thing. This is real. This is not a weird circumstance. Parents can sign their kids off to get married if they're a minor. Clearly, Ohio is looking into that to change it to 18, but I personally believe, I believe Elizabeth was a victim and groomed herself. I believe she was trafficked into this. I believe that possibly her parents sold her off. That's my guess. Could be wrong. And I think she's been sexually abused, mentally and emotionally and physically abused this whole time. Keeping her pregnant is a form of control. She loves her kids. And a lot of people say, well, she had every chance and opportunity to leave. Why didn't she just tell somebody when you're out of the store? Do you guys remember Elizabeth Smart, you know, the girl who disappeared for nine months and was held hostage and had multiple times she could tell people and she was too afraid? Yeah, it's kind of like that. Where you are so afraid for your life to tell the truth because they probably threatened her and her kids. If you tell anybody, if you try to sneak away, we will take your life and your kids. She was she was seen and not heard. And because she dealt with this for so long, it became normal. She depended on them. She depended on her abusers. It's Stockholm Syndrome. She's trauma bonded. And I don't think she voluntarily wanted to have that many kids. I mean, especially in living conditions like that. I feel like some of those kids aren't her husbands, but the grandfathers. I feel like the grandmothers sat back and watched the abuse happen. I think they're all fucked up individuals. But I think the abuse with Elizabeth got worse over time. One of the cops or the attorney, somebody said that when they they saw her, she almost had this look of relief in her eyes. Like she wanted to tell the truth so bad and just cry and was scared and terrified and just beaten down and broken. And we saw pictures that she had marks on her arms, but it would not surprise me if she is a victim too. And I don't think that it's just easy to tell somebody that you're being held hostage and being trafficked or abused and your kids are being abused and neglected. This is a power of control move. Those grand, it started with the grandparents, somehow, some way, somewhere, and that's going to come out later. I guarantee you there's gonna be files that arise of files of certain children and youth calls that were made on them when they brought their kids up, when they were raising their kids. Their other kids might come and vouch that they were abusive towards them. I don't know. Some of the other family members in the community are like, you know, they weren't always like this, or just because we're related to them doesn't make us one of them. And not one person saw this, not one person ever saw or knew any of this. I I beg to differ. That's what happens when people see something and they don't say something and they look the other way. But my gut is telling me that Elizabeth is a victim. She's been a victim since she married Gary Jr. And his parents abused her and he abused her, and it's a control tactic. And they kept her pregnant to keep her quiet and to abuse her and to control her. And she probably does love her kids, and she probably doesn't. I mean, you have to think, she got pregnant at 13, she married him at 15. Her brain wasn't even fully developed when she was having her own baby, and she grew up like this, literally grew up like this. So to her, I mean, I don't remember a lot before I was 13. I don't remember a lot after I was 13. A lot of it's a blur. So if she's living in these conditions since 13, this is all she probably remembers. It's normal to her. And you look at their eyes and all these photos, and people are like, well, why are they so red? Well, they don't get sunlight. They live in deplorable conditions with probably feces, which they've they've confirmed, you know, probably rodent droppings, mold, mildew, chemicals, dust. I mean, severe allergies are going to be caused, respiratory illnesses. Who knows if there's drug use? I mean, this is not safe. And they already said that one of the infants, if they didn't get the help they did, they probably would have died because of respiratory issues from breathing in all those toxins. I mean, everybody's eyes are red because they're living in a in a dangerous atmosphere and environment. So I think she's a victim. I think they kept her pregnant and and threatened her kids against her if she said anything. And uh it's kind of like those movies you see in Lifetime RHBO where they locked someone in a room for 25 years and they have babies and they never saw the outside world. I mean, it's it's real people. So I really think it started with the grandparents raising their kids this way. I think it's gonna come out in court at some point that children and youth was always involved. Those kids ran out of school, they moved a lot, her kids were abused, and then when they became 18, those ones that became successful got up, got out, and left and never turned back. That's gonna be my my thought that I could be completely wrong. I mean, clearly there's mental illness. It's not a how could they do this to their kids? This is a mentally, emotionally, and physically unfit circumstance. This is more than just child neglect. You know, I want to know how the hospitals across four counties had her on file constantly delivering babies, and no one stopped to think that this was alarming and worth being looked into. Or no social workers were notified, no cops, no follow-up doctor's appointments, none, nothing for any of the kids. Were all the kids Gary Jr.? I don't think so. I think the grandfather fathered some of those kids. Apparently, though, the defense stated that all 16 kids belonged to Gary Jr. and Elizabeth, but the prosecution and child welfare officials have been more guarded, stating it remains an intrafamily situation because the children completely lack documentation or birth certificates, and DNA testing is currently underway to formally map the exact biological relationships between the 16 victims and the four adults in the home. Now that's gonna take a while. It doesn't come back overnight. Did these public instances that they had, did this take place directly outside the home on Omer Street? And did neighbors ever witness anybody? And you can't blame the schools, the teachers, for this one because the kids were never enrolled in school. So it's not like the teacher saw bruises and neglect and didn't report it. I mean, there has to be calls and reports and tips from someone. And knowing the system it was overlooked, pushed aside, or forgotten about, and the youngest child being in respiratory distress, like I said earlier, did they not think to ever bring their kids to a fire station or a hospital to turn them over even because they were too unfit to take care of them? That is still a thing. I mean, clearly they were isolated and from society and didn't interact with the world, but they could have given their kids up. I wonder, again, I wonder if Elizabeth was abused and told not to help her kids or take them to the hospital for help because she was threatened and maybe she was just so abused and beaten down physically, mentally, and emotionally and verbally that she just did what she was told. And she could have just eventually became like them, and it was the new norm. I don't know. I feel bad for these kids and the foster care that they'll be getting. They're all being split up. They have no social skills, no education, no motor skills. All the kids 1 through 18 are probably on the level of a toddler. How will they recover? Several of the children are nonverbal. They have lived exclusively in a single 12 by 12 room and exhibit behaviors described by police as almost feral. Child welfare experts are questioning what long-term rehabilitation will look like, and they cannot be kept together logistically, meaning the state faces the massive challenge of transitioning them into a world they've never seen while managing severe developmental delays. Think about that for a second. Some of these kids are 16, 17, 18 years old and have never seen the outside world. They can't be kept together. So now they're being ripped apart and have a massive challenge to face to a world they've never seen with developmental delays. On July 7th, 2026, at 1 o'clock, all four members of the Siders family appeared together in the Vitten County Common Please Courtroom. They waived their right to a preliminary hearing. In late June, early July, state and local enforcement executed a search warrant at the home of Ulmer Street in Hamden, Ohio. And this is where they found the 16 children living ranging in age from 20 months to 18 years, including a set of 20-month-old twins. And then they found a memorial for two conjoined twins who died on the same day in 2022. Ohio Attorney General Andy Wilson described the conditions inside the house as deplorable and horrendous, stating that the children were in serious medical conditions, lacked basic hygiene, and some were so severely neglected that they could not speak. Four adults, the children's parents and grandparents, were arrested in each charge with 16 to 17 counts of degree felony child endangerment. Sources close to the defense indicate that attorneys for Christina Siders, the grandmother, plan to argue structural, multi-generational fear within the home. They aim to show that the grandfather's advancing cognitive decline left the grandmother isolated, effectively making her a bystander trapped in a house dominated entirely by the actions of Gary Siders Jr. Bullshit. I call bullshit on that. You know what? They're gonna use this whole dementia, his cognitive decline. No, I guarantee you she was sitting right next to him while all of this abuse was going on. She played a part in all of this. Don't sit there and turn it around and say that this is because her husband's decline left her isolated. Bullshit. They've been doing this a long time. They didn't just start doing this last year. This happened when Elizabeth Elizabeth was 13, had her first baby, and probably before that. So get the hell out of here with that. That's the that's the defense attorney trying to argue that to get her less charges. Bullshit. Bullshit, I call them that. They're not gonna sit there and say that she was a bystander trapped in a house, dominated entirely by the actions of her son. No. This has been going on for 20 plus years. Officials have clarified that this is not a human trafficking case, but rather an extreme case of family isolation. The children were completely unregistered, had never been enrolled in school, and had virtually no contact with the outside. World. Public records show that the parents, Gary Jr. and Elizabeth, were married in West Virginia in 2008 when they were 18 and 15. The family has transient roots, having previously lived in multiple Ohio counties, Gallia, Pike, Jackson, and Wisconsin before staying in the Bitten County home for the last four years. Neighbors in the small town of Handon expressed deep shock and anger. Local retail employees noted that parents occasionally shopped late at night, appearing unkempt, and that the mother consistently seemed pregnant. But the extent of what was happening inside the home remained completely hidden. All four defendants pleaded not guilty to all the charges. A judge set their bonds at $300,000 cash for surety each. If released on bond, they are barred from contacting each other or the children and must wear GPS monitors. Why let them out? Why? Each count of child endangerment carries a potential sentence of two to twelve years in prison for each child. But you're considering letting them out if they were GPS monitors? The fuck? Defense attorneys for the family have urged the public to reserve judgment. Well, sorry, I passed my judgment, arguing that the case is in its earliest stages, no formal indictments have been filed, and the situation may stem from deep seated isolation rather than intentional malice. The 16 children are currently in the temporary custody of child welfare, and officials are receiving medical, official evaluation and care. The criminal investigation remains active. Investigators revealed that most, if not all, of the 16 children were confined to a single bedroom measuring 12 by 12 feet. They spent the vast majority of the last four years inside this single space. The room was heavily contaminated with human waists and feces. Standing at the doorway of the room during the raid, Attorney General Wilson told reporters, I can still smell it. I cannot get the smell off me or away from me right now. No cages were found in the home, but the physical environment was described as worse than typical livestock conditions. Severe medical crisis, the discovery was so critical that officials believe if they had arrived 24 hours later, they would have been dealing with one or multiple childhood fatalities. Seven children were rushed to Columbus hospitals by ambulance and two were critically ill enough to be airlifted via helicopter. But they want to let these parents out with GPS monitors? The children ranged from 18 months to 18 years old. The oldest child, an 18-year-old girl with severe developmental disabilities, was completely unable to write her own name. Multiple younger children do not have the ability to speak coherent words. Investigators confirmed the family completely avoided setting up medical, financial, or government records for the children to systematically keep them hidden while moving across southern Ohio the last two decades. Following the appointment of defense counsel, a clear picture of the family structure and the initial defense strategy has emerged. Elizabeth Sider's court-appointed attorney Thomas Stoley met with her in jail. He described her as crying and exhausted, noting her immediate concern was asking if her children were okay and where they were. Now, a lot of people are against Elizabeth here saying, well, it's her fault her kids are like this. She abused them. I'm telling you, it's gonna come out that they used her kids as a way of controlling her. So she wouldn't speak out since she wouldn't run away. They kept her pregnant, they kept her homebound. If she said a word to anybody, they probably threatened to kill her kids and kill her. So that's why her first question was where her kids were and if they were okay. She was being of the a mother to them the only way she knew how. In a in an abusive home in deplorable conditions, I think that's I think that's what happened. I think that's the truth right there. I I could be completely wrong and this could come out and she could be an abuser, but my gut's telling me that they used her kids against her as abuse and kept her pregnant for control, and then used the kids against her to keep her silent. That that's what I'm going with. I don't know. I just, they're her kids. Unless she's putting on an act, I don't know. But I I really think that the grandparents and the husband use these kids against her. Stalin publicly pushed back on the state's characterization of pure evil, arguing that evil requires malice, which he claims is as as which he claims is absent here with Elizabeth. He pointed out that she married Gary Jr. when he when she was only 15 and has known no other lifestyle or worldview for the past 18 years, framing it as a tragic cycle of generational systemic isolation. Dorian Baum, the defense attorney for the 73-year-old grandfather Gary Syter Sr., raised immediate concerns regarding his client's mental health. Duh. During the arraignment, Syders Sr. sat with a blank stare at struggled to understand or even answer basic questions from the judge, prompting plans for formal competency evaluation to see if he's even fit to stand trial. Okay, again, here we go with the mental health bullshit again. This has been going on for 20 plus years. You're gonna sit there and tell me that for 20 years their son controlled this whole household, and it's elderly neglect, and the grandmother just stood by as a bystander, watched all this happen, and the grandfather has hasn't been competent in 20 some years, and Elizabeth knew everything that was going on. And no, no, I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it. This has been going on a lot longer than when Gary met Elizabeth. They married in 2008, it's been going on a lot longer than that. It didn't just happen overnight. So they're gonna play the whole mental health competency card on this, and it's not gonna fly. It's not gonna fly because you have to take into consideration the 20 years of this has been going on and longer that's not documented. What's the excuse then? I'll wait. While authorities initially stated they found the children during an unrelated warrant, court records now show that police originally went to the home to arrest the father Gary Siders Jr., Elizabeth's husband, on misdemeanor, indecent exposure charges stemming from four separate incidences alleged to have occurred in May of 2026. All four family members remain held at the Southeastern Ohio Regional Jail on 300,000 cash bonds as grand jury indictments are processed. Further investigations and details from the first week of July 2026 highlight the exact mechanics of how the family stay off the radar, the family's financial state, and the structural safety issues law enforcement face inside the homes. But the primary question looming over the town of Hamden is in how 16 children could vanish from society without a single red flag. Ohio BCI, which is the Bureau of Criminal Investigation, confirmed that parents deliberately avoided generating a standard footprint. Beyond skipping school enrollment and traditional medical checkups, they actively avoided registering the children for government services, social security numbers, or public assistance programs that require child counts. The father, Gary Siders Jr., worked as a DoorDash driver and took on sporadic gig and manual labor jobs. Because gig work only requires a single independent contractor tax form for the adult, it allowed the family to generate a small income without ever disclosing their dependence or household size to employers or state agencies. So he wasn't even he didn't even have to prove all this for food stamps or any of that. In a surprising twist, defense attorney Thomas Stoley noted that Elizabeth claims all 16 children were actually born in the local area hospitals, contradicting early assumptions that they were all home births. Investigators are currently cross-referencing Southern Ohio hospitals records to determine if and how the births were logged and why social services were never triggered after successive rapid deliveries. That is my question right there. Why were social services not triggered after successive rapid deliveries? The scene on Omer Street was so physically degraded that it posed an immediate threat to the structural safety of the first responders. Ohio Attorney General Andy Wilson noted that the rot, the decay, and the moisture inside the house were so severe that the law enforcement officers executing the warrant literally were about to fall through the floor at one point during the search. And then you wonder why all the sighters' eyes were red. The house has been since entirely boarded up by authorities, surrounded by police tape, and deemed completely uninhabitable. While the interior was kept completely hidden, the outside yard was cluttered with piles of refuse, discarded car tires, a lone high chair, broken bicycles, a beach pail, an infant car left exposed to the elements. The medical crisis when the children were pulled from the home on June 30th was severe. While some of the children have been since treated and released into temporary custody of the Ohio Department of Children and Youth, details on the most severe cases include one of the youngest children was found in such advanced respiratory of systemic distress that they had to be immediately intubated upon arrival at Columbus Level 1 trauma center. Doctors treating the children noted that they were dealing with extreme gastrointestinal and skin bacteria infections directly caused by living environments saturated with human waste. The Vitten County Prosecutor's Office has stated that the current 16 counts of child endangerment per adult are baseline. As forensic medical exams of the children finish, grand jury indictments are expected to bring significantly heavier individual felony charges. As investigators dig deeper in the family's background, several critical puzzle pieces regarding past warnings and the logistics of how this are noticed are coming to light. New details from the Vitten County Sheriff Office paint a stark picture of the physical setup of the home, which was tiny, it was a five-room, one bedroom, uh one-bathroom house, and the 16 children packed into that single 12 by 12 foot room included an incredibly high concentration of very young children. Among them were the separate set of twins, a set of four-year-olds and two-year-olds and one-year-olds. Three separate sets of twins, ladies and gentlemen. Court records officially list the ages of the children as 18, 16, 15, 14, 13, 11, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 2, and 1. The house sits tucked away directly alongside a steep railroad embankment on Homer Street, heavily shielded by thick trees and brush. Even though the front yard was visible from the road, the natural geography of the property made it incredibly easy for the family to keep the children completely out of sight of the village's 700 residents. And the legal battle is moving swiftly. Gary Siders Jr. is scheduled to appear in court for his initial hearing regarding the incident exposure warrant that originally brought deputies to the door. Meanwhile, the Vitten County Prosecutor's Office is working closely with the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation to finalize the formal grand jury indictments. Legal experts note that because second-degree felony child endangerment carries a mandatory two to eight-year minimum sentence per count, the defendants are facing a maximum cumulative sentence of up to 192 years of prison if convicted on all counts. The scope of this case has also triggered a massive multi-agency forensic audit into Southern Ohio's child welfare tracking systems. Given the sheer number of children involved, child welfare officials are facing an unprecedented placement crisis. Social workers have confirmed that it's logistically impossible to keep all 16 children together. The state is currently working to place them across multiple specialized therapeutic foster homes in southern and central Ohio. Because several of the children have never known a life outside that 12 by 12 room and lack basic social or linguistic skills, psychologists and developmental specialists are being brought in to help them transition to a world they've never seen. The Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation is currently running a parallel financial and record track. BCI agents are physically auditing birth registries at medical centers across Gallia, Pike, Jackson, and Vitton counties. They want to know if the hospitals filed standard birth certificate paperwork, and if so, why the system never flagged that these children were never again given Social Security numbers while rolled in school. Investigators were pulling data from Gary Jr.'s gigwork accounts like DoorDash to map his daily movements over the last four years. They are checking if he used his delivery routes to scope out secluded locations or if he had interactions that could change the scope of the charges. The Vinton County grand jury is expected to review the full forensic medical and environmental reports by mid-July, at which point the current charges are expected to be officially upgraded to multi-count indictments for long-term torture, kidnapping, and felony assault. Intense focus from the public and the media has prompted additional details to emerge regarding the marriage of the parents and the specific timeline of events that held up to the rescue. Journalists are pulling public records from the Mason County Courthouse in West Virginia and covered the paperwork for Gary Syders Jr. and Elizabeth Siders' marriage. They were married on March 31st, 2008, when Gary was 18 and Elizabeth was 15. Parental consent was granted because Elizabeth was a minor. The records show her parents, Brian Ray Russell and Lori Ann Raines, and a local West Virginia Circuit Court judge gave legal consent for the marriage to take place. At the time of their wedding, both Gary Jr. and Elizabeth lived in Gallia County, Ohio, just two houses away from each other. The documents also know that their formal education levels at the time, Gary Jr. had completed ninth grade while Elizabeth had completed eighth. She later then left high school after 11th grade. Early media wires drawn parallels to a 2018 escape, which referenced a completely different famous case. You guys may be familiar with the Turpin family case in California, where a 17-year-old daughter escaped through a window to alert police about her 12 captive siblings. So for the Cyders family, though, investigators are conducting a ground-up review to see if any local children's services in uh Gallia Pike or Jackson ever received tips over the last two decades because the family had no contact with schools and shifted locations frequently. There are currently no known prior local law enforcement interventions for any type of child abuse involving these 16 kids up until this June 30th grade. The Vinton County School District, which is the sole school district servicing the entire rural county, released a statement confirming they had absolutely no record of the family. None of the 16 children were ever registered for standard classes, and the parents never filed the mandatory state paperwork to register them as homeschooled. To the local educational system, the children simply did not exist. The state's primary focus remains on the medical stibulate of the children as the county prepares to present the formal evidence to a grand jury. Viral posts have claimed that Elizabeth was pregnant 21 times in 21 years and was groomed from the age of 13. Public marriage certificates from March 2008 confirmed she was 15 and Gary Jr. was 18 when they married. The conditions, and undisputed by officials, offense attorneys, are heavily cautioning the public against intent rumors that exaggerate or fabricate timeline details. While early press conference dates on June 30th suggested that the family may have been transient outsiders just passing through, BCI has since mapped out their history, showing that they have actually lived quietly across multiple southern Ohio counties for nearly two decades before staying at the Handham House for the last four years. Medical personnel and child welfare specialists are preparing for what they call a years-long psychological and physical rehabilitation one-way for the children. Because the older children have had zero exposure to a standard peer group, technology, or community navigation, the Ohio Department of Children and Youth is treating the transition as an extreme case of sensory and social reentry rather than a standard foster policeman. Vinton County prosecutor William Archer has stressed that the initial 16 counts of second-degree felony child endangering are merely a baseline to hold the suspects on bond. This grand jury is expected to review the case soon, raising the questions of how much further the charges will go. Legal experts anticipate potential upgrades to first-degree felonies, including kidnapping, felinous assault, or long-term torture, depending on the final medical assessments of these children's physical injuries and developmental traumas. Those are my findings on this case. And I'm gonna say it again, I think I think Elizabeth is a victim. I think she's been trafficked and victimized at a young age. This is all she knows. And they hold her children against her as a threat of if you say something, we'll kill them. If you say something, we'll kill you. And she did what she was told to protect her kids. Even though that they didn't have access to the outside world, they can't talk, they can't write their names, it doesn't mean she still doesn't love them. Or she's been in on this so much that this is normal to her and she is part of the abuse. I don't know, and that's for the judge and the grand jury to decide. I have no idea what this is going to end up becoming because the grandparents' attorneys are gonna use mental health against the jury and trying to say that they're unfit and they can't be held cognitant. Bullshit. I think the grandparents are the biggest abusers in this household. And I think the son followed the dad's footsteps, and I think Elizabeth was a victim of all of them, and they kept her pregnant to keep her quiet, and it was for control, and I'm sticking with that. That's my that's m that's just what my gut's telling me as a woman. But there are some evil women out there that do evil things to kids, so it is very likely that she too could also be in on this abuse, but something's telling me that she's not. I'd like to hear what you guys have to say. Um that's all the updates I have on this case as of now, but I did watch some videos on YouTube about it. I've seen some family members talk about it. I saw some of the first responders that were on scene talk about it. Um I can't imagine what they have gone through and the sightings they saw and smells they smell smelled and how they felt when they found these kids. I mean, I I I can't imagine these kids. I can't fathom how they're gonna get the help they need. I mean, they're they have been neglected for 18 years, and there's no coming back from that. You know, they they can give them a better home and a better living condition, but their mental state is not going to magically become 18. You know what I mean? They probably all adapt on a toddler level. I don't know. It's just I think this case is gonna move very quick. Obviously, they waived their right to a preliminary hearing and it's gonna go right to the grand jury, and that's when they're gonna decide. I think they're gonna get a lot more charges. I think it's more is gonna come out. I think the other kids of these grandparents that are adults are gonna testify maybe and and vouch that they were abused and neglected growing up. And I think school reports from those kids' schools are gonna have records that they missed school a lot, where we're abused a lot. There's gonna be a lot that comes out on those grandparents. Just wait. And Gary, the son, this is all he knows. So maybe that the grandpa did get dementia, and maybe the grandma was a victim of abuse as well. And now the son is abusive towards her. It's a whole fucked up family dynamic. But my my main instinct is it was originally the grandparents, then it was the son, and Elizabeth is a victim in all of this. She kept getting pregnant, they kept her pregnant to keep her controlled and to keep her quiet. I think she may get off the lightest. She may start talking, she might reveal some stuff that gets her off the hook. Um, what's the word that uh they give her immunity if she speaks? I mean, she might. She might throw them all under the bus and finally admit that she's been abused, or she might be too scared to say anything and go down with them all, or maybe she is an abuser like the rest of them. I don't know. But I I am looking forward to seeing what comes out of this. I hope all those kids get the help that they need and the love and healthy environments that they need. And God bless the people helping them. God bless those first responders, God bless community for helping, and hopefully these kids will have a better life moving forward, and these pieces of shit will be locked up forever. They don't they don't deserve to get out. They don't deserve ankle bracelets now. They need to rot in a cell like their kids did in a 12 by 12 arm. Yeah, give them a five by fiver because that is disgusting. These people suck. Like I I am just I I think I'm more shocked because again, I wanted that I wanted to work in this field and it angers me that these kids fall through the cracks like this. It's so preventable. But if there was no system to track them and there was no evidence, I mean it's hard to get mad at one doctor, one nurse, one child and youth, one this, one that when they weren't registered anywhere. They weren't in the in the system, they weren't in school, so they didn't exist, you know? So it it's hard to pinpoint one person. But as a whole, these kids were failed. But they're gonna be looking at a lot of records, a lot of states, a lot of interviews with people. I don't know. I just can't believe if they waited 24 hours, they would have had mass fatalities. I don't know. But I'll stay updated on this, guys. I know this is a case y'all have been following, and I'll try to bring back part two as soon as we get some updates. I'm sure there's gonna be some this week because it's mid-July. Things are gonna start coming out more. In the meantime, thanks for tuning in. Thanks for giving criminals the disrespect they deserve. And please subscribe on your favorite platform. Leave a review, leave a rating. Follow me on Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat. True crime with Tiv Klein, K-L-I-N-E. And don't forget my my newest podcast ringing the corner, corners with a K. Look for the orange and the yellow and the greens. I will be back soon. I have been going through some stuff and I'm not as focused. Um, but I'll I'll bounce back in time. But I just wanted to cover this case because this is one everyone's coming at me for because I grew up in southern Ohio, so this was really close to home. I, you know, I looked up on Google Maps and it's like, damn, like I go right right by there. There's a lot of sh fucked up shit in Ohio. A lot of things, I mean, uh anywhere you go. But lately it's like Ohio's just been like, and it's always the one part of Ohio, like Soyota County, Adams County, where Afroman's from, where I'm from, you know, Plate County, now Vitten County, Chilla Coffee murders, these women from Columbus just disappeared. Like, there's a lot. That guy in the bar, I can't think of his name right now, he just vanished like 20 years ago in a bar in Columbus. Nobody ever saw him again. I don't know, it's crazy, but I could probably do a whole season on true crime, but just in southern Ohio. It's insane. So, thank you for giving me the time to give criminals the disrespect they deserve. I will see you next time.